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Bon, craquage au bureau la semaine dernière: je prends des vacances et je me barre aux US (heu, fin septembre hein, histoire de diviser par deux le prix du billet [:citronvert:9] , et d'avoir moins de monde sur place...)

Ce qui est prévu: durée: environ 12 jours, mais plus j'y réfléchis et plus je sens que ça va en devenir 15...
CFE-CDG-LAX
Los Angeles (1,5j)
Location de voiture suppositoire à camions
Mojave, 1h42: Air and Space Museum (1/2j)
San Francisco (via Hwy 1), 10h31 (ça pique... mais j'ai déjà fait Göteborg/Saint Germain en Laye non stop en Clio, donc même pas peur ), 2 jours
Yosemite National Parc, 3h50, 1 jour
Death Valley, Ghost Towns, 6h40 (2j)
Las Vegas, 3h18, 1j
Grand Canyon, 4h54, Antelope Canyon, 2h57, Monument Valley, 2h22 (2j)
Salt Lake City, 6h54: rendage de voiture et SLC-CDG-CFE

Le Salt Lake City est surtout pour arriver à un aéroport... Des gens connaissent ce qu'il y a autour? Mis à part un grand lac salé qui n'est pas la mer?

Je pense prendre tente/sac de couchage pour certains soirs (c'est possible dans les/à proximité des parcs nationaux? pakeu c'est surtout là que ça m'intéresse, pas à SFO-centre :/ ), le reste se fera dans du motel/auberge de jeunesse/que sais-je encore, pour avoir une douche .

Dans cet ordre: 1j 19h de route, ce qui me met avec ces timings à 12 jours, sauf si je raccourcis les nuits pour (temps de route qui n'est pas vraiment exact, pakeu j'arrive pas à faire comprendre à Google Maps que je NE VEUX PAS passer par la 101 [:california m:4] , mais ça doit pas changer de beaucoup quand même)

Du coup, je google-ise tant que je peux, mais j'aimerais autant avoir des avis de gens qui veni/vidi/vici
Achat des billets une fois que j'aurai une trame temporelle, pour pouvoir ajuster en cas de besoin (mais sous 15 jours quand même pour pas trop traîner).
Pis question subsidiaire: quelqu'un a une idée des températures, à cette époque (on va dire entre le 20 septembre et le 10 Octobre pour viser large)?

La chose:
http://maps.google.fr/maps?f=d&source=s ... 753418&z=6


Merkiiii

Rhaaaaa... je ne peux pas t'aider, mais ça a l'air très sympa comme circuit !!!

je peux pas t'aider non plus j'ai fait que la floride et new york

I'm so sorry I can't help you I've only been to Louisiana, Florida and Hawaii
Your travel plans sound great
Have a nice trip in September

Thanks


C'est donc moi qui vais devoir écrire le guide du SSC-ard version California?
Ça va faire du boulot, ça

Yeah
U gonna create ur own topic about LA SFO
LV GC SLC that's gonna be intrestin' 4 SSC members

What a pity u don't fly thru SFO by Air France's A380...that flight starts June 6 & ends Sept 4...

As to temps, on the West Coast it may still be hot in September, although it might be rainin'. In the desert, as I've been told by friends who've been to Vegas, it's crazy hot by daytime and you'll appreciate airconed places, but it's fuck'n freezin' at night...the best u can do is to look online weather forecasts bfore u take off & bring both warm & light clothes

Have u already been to the US?

Ah? On part sur de l'angliche? chouette, on va réviser...

Might do that in the opposite way: from SLC to LAX via SFO (I'll not try the A380, but I'll finish the trip on the beach ).
This will be my third trip in the Americas (New York City, NY in January 2010 and Montreal, QC, CA in February 2011). But the first one in summer time. A big deal for a polar bear like me [:calva76:5] ...
Pictures to come

I think the itinerary is quite frozen now, I just have to plan the activities at every stopover

Yeah that's good to practice English a little bit

Well it's up to u to choose what's the best alternative 4 u, but u may have better weather on the beach in Sept rather than Oct

I don't know whether that A380 flight to Frisco is gonna be kept after Sept 4 or not. On AF's website it looks as if it's seasonal flight

Did u fly onboard A380 to NYC last year?
Which places have u visited there and in Montreal?

I think I'd like a trip to Quebec in the near
future maybe during "Indian Summer" and probably flying thru AF A380 that's a great aircraft

Well there's plenty places to visit in the locations u've selected I think Grand Canyon and Monument Valley r worth to be seen there r Indian reserves in the neighborhood

In SLC, there r high speed car races as I've heard and there r Mormons [:ben-der:1]

There's a lot to find on the internet as to what's worth to be seen & what to do
And u've plenty of time before departure
I'll try to ask my friends if they can give me some informations that may be useful to u

Have a nice day & nice meal this evening with SSC members

the A380 is a really nice aircraft, but the seats in the business class are not very good (very very very noisy)

And still not internet on flight in french company while in US companies, you can have the wifi in the air

for the indian reserve, hope it's not like in florida, nothing but a huge casino in the middle of nowhere

Yeah that's good to practice English a little bit

Well it's up to u to choose what's the best alternative 4 u, but u may have better weather on the beach in Sept rather than Oct

Might not be a big difference anyway, and I tried the Baltic Sea in June 2008 and the Mediterranean Sea in March 2011. Pacific Ocean in October 2011 should not be difficult [:citronvert:9]

I don't know whether that A380 flight to Frisco is gonna be kept after Sept 4 or not. On AF's website it looks as if it's seasonal flight

Did u fly onboard A380 to NYC last year?
Which places have u visited there and in Montreal?

Nope, no A380 yet
Montreal: approximately the whole town (100km by feet in ten days dead every evening...), and a bit of Quebec, but with a snowstorm, and a lot of fog :/ so I didn't see that much of the town

I think I'd like a trip to Quebec in the near
future maybe during "Indian Summer" and probably flying thru AF A380 that's a great aircraft

nice place, but the town in itself can be visited in 2-3 days I guess. Couldn't go to the countryside, but there must definitely be some great places there

Well there's plenty places to visit in the locations u've selected I think Grand Canyon and Monument Valley r worth to be seen there r Indian reserves in the neighborhood

In SLC, there r high speed car races as I've heard and there r Mormons [:ben-der:1]

There's a lot to find on the internet as to what's worth to be seen & what to do
And u've plenty of time before departure

Yep, not really started now (in Bordeaux with a loooooooow speed internet access [:ben-der:3] )...

I'll try to ask my friends if they can give me some informations that may be useful to u

Great Many thanks

Have a nice day & nice meal this evening with SSC members

the business class

[:wise901:3]

if you fly a lot with AF, you can collect enough point for it

anyway I went twice to new york and the first time in a Boeing 747 700, in "class eco" and that was great two (you can get drunk in the two cases but not with the same product )

Beau parcours ! Bon, moi mon voyage idéal passerait par la Louisiane.

Sinon, là, j'éviterais L.A. Peut être descendre la côte jusqu'à Carmel dire bonjour à Clint puis filer sur Yosemite, fuir Vegas (t'façon, y'a plein d'travaux en ce moment !...), pour finir à Salt Lake City.

Sinon flâner une semaine à N.Y....

Beau parcours ! Bon, moi mon voyage idéal passerait par la Louisiane.

Sinon, là, j'éviterais L.A. Peut être descendre la côte jusqu'à Carmel dire bonjour à Clint puis filer sur Yosemite, fuir Vegas (t'façon, y'a plein d'travaux en ce moment !...), pour finir à Salt Lake City.

Sinon flâner une semaine à N.Y....

C'est chouette la Louisiane il y a plein de choses à voir et à faire
A commencer par s'encanailler sur Bourbon Street
Une petite croisière sur Mississipi River onboard Steamin' Boat Natchez c'est cool aussi

the A380 is a really nice aircraft, but the seats in the business class are not very good (very very very noisy)

And still not internet on flight in french company while in US companies, you can have the wifi in the air

for the indian reserve, hope it's not like in florida, nothing but a huge casino in the middle of nowhere

Did you fly thru AF's A380? Seats are noisy?? What do u mean by that exactly

OK well I'll consider a Singapore Airline's executive suite then

As to internet onboard AF, I've heard that it should be settled in the near future...but I don't know more...

But I don't fly US airlines as they treat passengers as kettle and serve shit onboard the only good US airline I know is Hawaiian Airlines [:amiralackbar:3]

In Nevada, Native Americans are involved in tourism activities in the desert they manage a transparent and amazing bridge atop a canyon

Might not be a big difference anyway, and I tried the Baltic Sea in June 2008 and the Mediterranean Sea in March 2011. Pacific Ocean in October 2011 should not be difficult [:citronvert:9]

Difficult, no 4 sure there may be still hot weather maybe even a canicula...but it may also be rainin'... If there's canicula in Calif and if you r camping, u need to be extremely careful abt wildfires there...

Nope, no A380 yet
Montreal: approximately the whole town (100km by feet in ten days dead every evening...), and a bit of Quebec, but with a snowstorm, and a lot of fog :/ so I didn't see that much of the town

u're courageous to walk in Canadian winter [:amiralackbar:3]
I remember to have heard on the news about those severe snowstorms ...

nice place, but the town in itself can be visited in 2-3 days I guess. Couldn't go to the countryside, but there must definitely be some great places there

What's worth to be seen in Montreal?
As to the countryside, yeah I've got friends who've been there & told me that there r so many beautiful places along the St-Laurent I wish to see al that with my own eyes in the near future but definitely not in winter

C'est marrant les filles, vous faites moins de faute en anglais...

Did you fly thru AF's A380? Seats are noisy?? What do u mean by that exactly

OK well I'll consider a Singapore Airline's executive suite then

As to internet onboard AF, I've heard that it should be settled in the near future...but I don't know more...

But I don't fly US airlines as they treat passengers as kettle and serve shit onboard the only good US airline I know is Hawaiian Airlines [:amiralackbar:3]

In Nevada, Native Americans are involved in tourism activities in the desert they manage a transparent and amazing bridge atop a canyon

yes I flight back from new york city on AF's A380, each time you want to change position, the seat just make sooooooo much noise, the electrical engines are very noisy, imagine when you have a kid that is playing with the seat

fortunately there is absinthe

C'est marrant les filles, vous faites moins de faute en anglais...

I know...

C'est marrant les filles, vous faites moins de faute en anglais...

:ptdr:

yes I flight flew back from new york city on AF's A380, each time you want to change position, the seat just make sooooooo much noise, the electrical engines are very noisy, imagine when you have a kid that is playing with the seat

fortunately there is absinthe

OK I see Oh my gosh flight attendants should switch those seats off cause it's nightmared trip otherwise

absinthe [:zebulon:6] and there's free Champagne onboard AF [:british:3]

Beau parcours ! Bon, moi mon voyage idéal passerait par la Louisiane.

Sinon, là, j'éviterais L.A. Peut être descendre la côte jusqu'à Carmel dire bonjour à Clint puis filer sur Yosemite, fuir Vegas (t'façon, y'a plein d'travaux en ce moment !...), pour finir à Salt Lake City.

Sinon flâner une semaine à N.Y....

Ça fait un poil loin, mais ce ne sont pas mes dernières vacances
La semaine à NYC: celle qui démarrait le 1/1/2010 pour accompagner une frangine qui passait un concours là-bas (la bouteille d'eau dans le sac qui se transforme en glaçon )

Might not be a big difference anyway, and I tried the Baltic Sea in June 2008 and the Mediterranean Sea in March 2011. Pacific Ocean in October 2011 should not be difficult [:citronvert:9]

Difficult, no 4 sure there may be still hot weather maybe even a canicula...but it may also be rainin'... If there's canicula in Calif and if you r camping, u need to be extremely careful abt wildfires there...

Broaf, mouillé pour mouillé, t'façons [:citronvert:9] et le camping, seulement pour la nuit, je compte pas faire de courses pour des grillades, je pourrai pas stocker quoi que ce soit
(Vi, c'est dimanche, la flemme de traduire: je reviens d'un exam en Shakespearien )

Nope, no A380 yet
Montreal: approximately the whole town (100km by feet in ten days dead every evening...), and a bit of Quebec, but with a snowstorm, and a lot of fog :/ so I didn't see that much of the town

u're courageous to walk in Canadian winter [:amiralackbar:3]
I remember to have heard on the news about those severe snowstorms ...

Ben en ville ça reste de loin le plus pratique: en bus tu te pèles aux arrêts en attendant le bubus qu'arrive pas, et après les vitres sont couvertes de sel dehors et buée dedans, donc tu vois que dalle, et en métro tu vois pas grand-chose non plus
Pis tu te dis que t'as pas acheté la doudoune pour rien [:julien:8]

nice place, but the town in itself can be visited in 2-3 days I guess. Couldn't go to the countryside, but there must definitely be some great places there

What's worth to be seen in Montreal?
As to the countryside, yeah I've got friends who've been there & told me that there r so many beautiful places along the St-Laurent I wish to see al that with my own eyes in the near future but definitely not in winter

Le long du Saint-Laurent, je sais pas trop, j'ai vu que l'autoroute dans le sens Montréal -> Québec, et des flocons, du brouillard et les feux rouges de camion devant moi pendant 3h30 dans l'autre sens (ah, si, distingué 5 bagnoles au tas, aussi [:citronvert:9] )
Dans Montréal même, surtout le centre-vile, le vieux port, éventuellement le quartier à buildings (de mémoire le sud-ouest du centre ville), qui contraste vraiment avec le reste de la ville (et qui contient une station de métro Parisienne : le soir après 10 bornes à pattes, la réflexion c'est "méheu, qu'est-ce que ça fout là, ça ?")


Des églises magnifiques, des musées sympa, pis en été sans doute des bars à terrasse confortables.
Si on se croise je pourrai te laisser mes guides

yes I flight flew back from new york city on AF's A380, each time you want to change position, the seat just make sooooooo much noise, the electrical engines are very noisy, imagine when you have a kid that is playing with the seat

fortunately there is absinthe

OK I see Oh my gosh they should switch those seats off cause it's nightmared travel

absinthe [:zebulon:6] and Champagne [:british:3]

Bande de pochetrons...
C'est en éco que je me suis le plus torché la gu* , en Premium (vive le surclassement sauvage de dernière minute ) j'ai pieuté comme un bébé, et j'avais une patate formidable en arrivant (jusqu'à 18h30 [:julien:8] )